One woman with a 93 Grand Cherokee on-line!!!

Just stumbled upon this group today.  Gave up months ago looking
for specific conversations on 4X4.

Looking forward to the conversations.

: In article <Kauser_S_Dar-2702951257120…@128.149.100.74>,
: Kauser_S_…@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov (Kauser S. Dar) wrote:

: > I noticed that there appeared no female input to this 4×4 group–so here’s
: > mine!! My husband and I just bought a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I love
: > It!!!
: > I’d love to have a second one.  Anyone else out there own one??
: >
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: > Ms. Kauser.S….@jpl.nasa.gov
My girlfriend owns a 1967 Kiser M-715.  Which is a 3 ton military 4X4 that
was converted to a chevy 350 and th400 auto tranny.  She loves it.  She
really loves the way guys look at her with disbelief when she is driving it.

Richard Larson <rlar…@qualcomm.com> wrote:

>On road it was awesome, any weather.  Off road it did suffer from some
>clearence problems.  Most annoying was coming off a small drop off I bent
>the  rear frame/bumper mounts after catching the rear tow hook on a rock.
>Get the tow package and receiver hitch and this would not be a problem.  

not exactly…i have the tow package and receiver hitch, and first time
out i drug my butt all over the place….and nearly pull the electric
connection box off.  i did take the connector out and hid it up under
the body, but i left the box…why not, it is bent up out of the way
now.  :)

a lift is what solves that problem.

leonard

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  Leonard Lauria    Leon…@speedy.cc.uky.edu, Leon…@ukcc.uky.edu
  Sr. Systems Prog. University of Kentucky Computing Center, Lexington, Ky.

>But I heard they suck in the snow.  I heard from a Range Rover driver
>that he eased past a guy puttering along in snowy road conditions.
>The G-C driver tried to follow him but promptly lost interest and
>thought it more fun to spin around in the road and hit a tree.

buzzzz  wrong answer….GCs are great in snow…or any other surface
for that matter….drivers on the other hand….some of them will never
never never learn.

leonard
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  Leonard Lauria    Leon…@speedy.cc.uky.edu, Leon…@ukcc.uky.edu
  Sr. Systems Prog. University of Kentucky Computing Center, Lexington, Ky.

>But I heard they suck in the snow.  I heard from a Range Rover driver
>that he eased past a guy puttering along in snowy road conditions.
>The G-C driver tried to follow him but promptly lost interest and
>thought it more fun to spin around in the road and hit a tree.

We must not forget that an idiot can crash ANY vehicle in the snow. From
my experience (’93 Cherokee Sport) and friends of mine who have Grand
Cherokees we have had no trouble in the snow in Oregon. Slipping into 4wd
has usually provided instant traction for me on the way to the slopes.

For what it’s worth I can also add that my Sport seems to be more
comfortable on the old logging "roads" in the mountains than a friend’s
Chevy Blazer (Tahoe package). By the way, the owner of the Blazer agrees,
so this is not just my bias.

                                Jonathan Sacoolas
                                University of Southern California
                                sacoo…@usc.edu

Even though I think Grand Cherokee’s can’t hold a candle to a Toyota in
terms of the engineering or excellence of body construction/parts, all of
the current 4-W drive utility vehicles…well…not all..but most do just
fine in terms of handling snow. Much, much more critical to excellent
traction in snow is the tire. Many people try to get by with an "all
weather" tire. It just will NOT  cut it in serious winter conditions.
Believe me. Can you get by? Sure! That’s why they sell so many of them.
But you’ll have to drive more carefully. You could probably get by in
nearly bald street tires if you went slow enough!! But the point to having
this kind of car is to have good solid traction in such conditions. If you
spend $20,000+ on a car, spend the extra couple hundred on decent full
winter tires! And……if you state allows it, have them studded AND
siped. THAT is the ticket. My wife drives a Mazda RX-7 all winter (!) and
has excellent traction. Four studded, siped tires designed for snow are
the reason why. Hey. In our home, winter counts.

Bud Kuenzli
North Pole, Alaska

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lthf…@northstar.k12.ak.us
Bud Kuenzli, North Pole, Alaska
wl7cik

>But I heard they suck in the snow.  I heard from a Range Rover driver
>that he eased past a guy puttering along in snowy road conditions.
>The G-C driver tried to follow him but promptly lost interest and
>thought it more fun to spin around in the road and hit a tree.

In snow the Grand Cherokee performs quite well!  I lived in Manitoba in
Canada.

aC
—
  Andy Hon Wai Chu
  email: umchu…@ccu.umanitoba.ca
  from:  University of Manitoba, Canada

Kauser S. Dar (Kauser_S_…@ccmail.jpl.nasa.gov) wrote:
: I noticed that there appeared no female input to this 4×4 group–so here’s
: mine!! My husband and I just bought a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I love
: It!!!
: I’d love to have a second one.  Anyone else out there own one??

: —
: Ms. Kauser.S….@jpl.nasa.gov

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Robert> Speaking of the Grand Cherokee,
[...]
Robert> I’m leaning towards maybe an Explorer Expedition (2-dr) or
Robert> Blazer 2-dr. (though I am turned off by the cheap plasticky interior
Robert> of the Blazer)

>  I love the looks of the Grand Cherokee (no 5-speed, though
>  but wonder about the long-term quality.  Having experience
>  with Fords, I would go with the Explorer for the reliablity
>  but wonder about the Cherokee.
>   Comments?

We’ve had a 1994 Grand Cherokee Laredo for 10 months now.  We took it
on a 4 month cross North America journey.

Some events:
        – climbed Pike’s Peak without blinking (on-road not off! THAT
          would have been a challenge!)
        – air conditioner through Barstow to Las Vegas trip at 117
          degrees F
        – gail force winds in Nebraska (scared the S#!T out of us)
        – offroading in Sedona
        – mud treks through the Alberta badlands
        – our ‘tent’ through a particalurly nasty storm in Palo Duro
          Canyon (sp?) Texas
        – blizzard on the hwy 400 from Barrie to Toronto (obviously
          NOT last summer but it happened anyway)

To date, we have logged 36,000 km and have had no problems other than
a slow start, where the dealership decided to replace the distributer
rather than have it develop into something that would affect the
journey. Plus we have to give the transparency of service from Jeep
Dealerships across North America 5 stars (well Canada and the U.S. at
least).

I would wholeheartedly recommend a Jeep Grand Cherokee to anyone. As
to long-term reliability, no one can say yet, but we certainly have
tested ours on all sorts of scenarios and it has passed with flying
colours.

Robert>  Many of the articles in magazines have expressed concern about
Robert>  the long-term reliability of them, given Chrysler (& AMC’s)
Robert>  abysmal past quality history and many small problems that have
Robert>  cropped  up during their testing.

From our experience the magazines speculations are to date unrealized
and I hope it stays that way. If the past ten months are any
indication however, I’m looking forward to having this vehicle for a
very long time.  

Robert> —
Robert> Robert W. Hall  rh…@eecs.umich.edu————————

Colin Kemp