(radioactive man) wrote:
> 1)  it doesn’t look that good (shows the frame and stuff

Install FrameSkins (or whatever they’re called) so you won’t see through
the truck’s wheel housings.

> 2) this vehicle will ride a lot rougher (no rubber body mounts).

You’re not supposed to install the lift blocks _instead_ of the body
mounts. Just put the lift blocks between the frame and the body mounts.
Polyurethane replacement mounts will improve overall handling.

L8R,

Jochen.

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(William Frey) wrote:
> The disadvantages of the body lift over a suspension lift are:
[...]
> 2.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN CLEARANCE FOR HIGH CENTERED
>     FRONT TO REAR.
> 3.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN WHEEL TRAVEL AVAILABILITY

You can, however, install slightly larger tires which will give you a
tad more ground clearance. Whereas a suspension lift may allow for
larger tires also, the tires may rub the fender wells at full
compression. Thus, IMHO the combination of a mild body lift with a mild
suspension (but good shocks and stabilizer!) is the way to go.

L8R,

Jochen.

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In article <3qlkrg$…@hpchase.rose.hp.com>, fr…@hpcmra.sj.hp.com (William Frey) writes:
>Russell Partch (par…@vette.colorado.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3qfski$…@hq.hq.af.mil>, rspence@pafosu3 (TSgt Robert E. Spence) writes:
>: >Going to put a 2" body lift on my F150 this weekend.  Any helpful hints
>: >will be greatly appreciated.
>: >
>: >Rob

>: Reminds me of a question I wanted to ask.

>: What advantages (beside maybe cost) are there to
>: having a body lift in addition to or instead of a spring lift?

>The advantages of a body lift over a suspension lift are:
>1.  COST
>2.  EASE OF INSTALLATION
>3.  FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF LIFT, THE BODY LIFT DOESN’T RAISE
>    THE CENTER OF GRAVITY AS MUCH BECAUSE THE ENGINE, TRANNY,
>    FRAME ETC ARE NOT RAISED
>4.  THE FRONT END ALIGNMENT IS UNAFFECTED.

>The disadvantages of the body lift over a suspension lift are:
>1.  THE BUMPERS, BRUSH GUARDS, AND ANY OTHER FRAME MOUNTED
>    PARTS DON’T MOVE WITH THE BODY AND THEREFORE AFFECT THE
>    APPEARANCE.
>2.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN CLEARANCE FOR HIGH CENTERED
>    FRONT TO REAR.
>3.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN WHEEL TRAVEL AVAILABILITY

>Another advantage I forgot to list above is:
>5.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN STRESS ON U-JOINTS.

>I don’t claim this to be a comprehensive list of the
>differences but it is all that I can think of.

>:   russ

Thanks Bill,

I’d not thought of a few of those.
russ

Did a 2" on a Mazda 2600i (rubber mounts in frame, so no loss there). I believe that
with the Ford, you will not have the rubber bushing, so additional vibrations will be
transmitted to you, the driver.

Otherwise, you can’t even tell on the Mazda – looks like any other Japanese truck
(some frame showing now vs before, looks good). Most people just think it’s a big
Mazda.

We used the vinyl carpet protector (the flexible stuff w/ the nipples on the back) and
fastened it in the front & rear wheel-wells, then coated the wheel-wells, frame with
Wesley’s undercoating. Unless you stick your head in the fenderwell, you have no
clue!

BTW: It took us about 15 hours (2 people) drinkin’ beer & making sure it was done
correctly. 3 hours was ripping out/replacing  the interior of the e-cab to get to the
back cab bolts.

We have plans to go back and replace the hokey front bumper mounts with
something that will take a hit, but that’s later. Bringing down the radiator was the
other "fun" thing, but I think these 2 are Mazda-specific.

Have fun!
E…@artisoft.com

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>Going to put a 2" body lift on my F150 this weekend.  Any helpful hints
>will be greatly appreciated.

>Rob

: In article <3qfski$…@hq.hq.af.mil>, rspence@pafosu3 (TSgt Robert E. Spence) writes:
: >Going to put a 2" body lift on my F150 this weekend.  Any helpful hints
: >will be greatly appreciated.
: >
: >Rob

: Reminds me of a question I wanted to ask.

: What advantages (beside maybe cost) are there to
: having a body lift in addition to or instead of a spring lift?

The advantages of a body lift over a suspension lift are:
1.  COST
2.  EASE OF INSTALLATION
3.  FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF LIFT, THE BODY LIFT DOESN’T RAISE
    THE CENTER OF GRAVITY AS MUCH BECAUSE THE ENGINE, TRANNY,
    FRAME ETC ARE NOT RAISED
4.  THE FRONT END ALIGNMENT IS UNAFFECTED.

The disadvantages of the body lift over a suspension lift are:
1.  THE BUMPERS, BRUSH GUARDS, AND ANY OTHER FRAME MOUNTED
    PARTS DON’T MOVE WITH THE BODY AND THEREFORE AFFECT THE
    APPEARANCE.
2.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN CLEARANCE FOR HIGH CENTERED
    FRONT TO REAR.
3.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN WHEEL TRAVEL AVAILABILITY

Another advantage I forgot to list above is:
5.  THERE IS NO INCREASE IN STRESS ON U-JOINTS.

I don’t claim this to be a comprehensive list of the
differences but it is all that I can think of.

:   russ

: In article <3qfski$…@hq.hq.af.mil>, rspence@pafosu3 (TSgt Robert E. Spence) writes:
: > Going to put a 2" body lift on my F150 this weekend.  Any helpful hints
: > will be greatly appreciated.
: >
: > Rob

: Rob:
:       Don’t do it.  Bad news down the road.

Thanx for such an informative comment.  How about if you provide some details
and facts with your statement.  Why is is "Bad news down the road?"  What is
your personal experience with body lifts?

>> Rob
>Rob:
>    Don’t do it.  Bad news down the road.

i am going to agree with this one.  but if you are dead set on it, good
luck.  you will find two things: 1)  it doesn’t look that good (shows the
frame and stuff, and 2) this vehicle will ride a lot rougher (no rubber
body mounts).  

i realize that you are probably selecting this over a suspension lift for
two reasons: cost and ease.  i’m guessing you have the TTB front end
(unless you have a ‘classic’ ford) and this suspension lift for them is
pricy, i admit.  (if you had a live axle in front, the cost of a
suspension list would be comparable to a body lift)but you would be MUCH
happier.  however, you just might be satisfied when you are done and my  
opinion gets tossed.  and i sincerely hope you are happy.

goodluck, and let us know how you fare.

rm

> Going to put a 2" body lift on my F150 this weekend.  Any helpful hints
> will be greatly appreciated.

> Rob

Rob:
        Don’t do it.  Bad news down the road.

>Going to put a 2" body lift on my F150 this weekend.  Any helpful hints
>will be greatly appreciated.

>Rob

Reminds me of a question I wanted to ask.

What advantages (beside maybe cost) are there to
having a body lift in addition to or instead of a spring lift?

  russ